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原帖由 CB1668_2 於 2021-10-27 09:07 PM 發表

梗係無人「確診」,

因為接種科興的人,係新加坡係被視為「未接種疫苗」,
所以打科興確診的人,都會被分類「未接種疫苗的確診者」。
sinovac had been considered fully vaccinated since Sept in Singapore



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原帖由 CB1668_2 於 2021-10-27 09:19 PM 發表

唔係!

新加坡10月23日先開始承認科興,而且要打三針先算接種左疫苗。
以現時情況,新加坡應該未有人打到第三針科興。

所以,樓上ching 的cap圖係9月5日,
所有接種科興的人,仍被視為「未完成接種疫苗」
中左招,都會歸入「未完成接種疫苗確診者。)

https://www.hk01.com/即時國際/692242/科興出品納入新加坡新冠肺炎疫苗接種計劃-須打3針 ...
All individuals who have taken two doses of the Sinovac vaccine will be regarded as fully vaccinated for four months after the second dose, or Dec 31 this year, whichever is later.

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/sinovac-included-in-singapores-national-covid-19-vaccination-programme-3-doses

Singapore considers sinovac and sinopharm as fully vaccinated since August 10.

https://sg.news.yahoo.com/sinova ... -aug-114226036.html

[ 本帖最後由 pbd456 於 2021-10-27 09:37 PM 編輯 ]



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原帖由 CB1668_2 於 2021-10-27 09:53 PM 發表

點解我成日都覺得你答野係九唔搭八?

我地之前講緊:
「樓上ching 的cap圖係9月5日,
所有接種科興的人,仍被視為「未完成接種疫苗」
中左招,都會歸入「未完成接種疫苗確診者。)」

你再貼一次10月23日正式承認,再加埋8月開始「考慮」(考慮承認唔代表已經承認)黎做乜?

點都好,返回你問題,
打疫苗,打兩針我都嫌麻煩,重要打三針!
Scroll back up to restore default view.
Yahoo News Singapore
Those given Sinovac, Sinopharm or AstraZeneca jabs counted as fully vaccinated from 10 Aug
Wong Casandra·Senior Reporter6 August 2021·2-min readSINGAPORE — From next Tuesday (10 August), those in Singapore who receive COVID-19 jabs that are not under the national programme but are under the World Health Organisation’s (WHO) emergency use listing will also be recognised as fully-vaccinated two weeks after completing the vaccine regimen.

https://sg.news.yahoo.com/sinovac-sinopharm-astra-zeneca-jabs-fully-vaccinated-10-aug-114226036.html


The Aug news said vaccines not in national program but authorized by WHO would be considered fullly vaccinated.


Oct 23 is updated guideline, after Sinovac is added to the national vaccination campaign.


Also, your first reply said only 3 doses of sinovac is fully vaccinated, and my link has clearly disproved what you said.

[ 本帖最後由 pbd456 於 2021-10-27 10:08 PM 編輯 ]



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原帖由 CB1668_2 於 2021-10-27 10:29 PM 發表

係你啱!多謝指正!

但我真係估唔到科興會畀人downgrade,
由2劑就當fully vaccinated
變成3劑。
no. it is fully vaccinated after 2 weeks and before 4 months.  With sinovac added to national vaccination program, it is easy to get a 3rd dose.  Sinovac was administered quite late in Singapore and i dont know if many have met the 4 months mark if they have received their first dose in Singapore.
https://www.reuters.com/world/as ... vaccine-2021-06-18/

it was in June that first dose was given.  So there was no downgrade because no one in Singapore has over 4 months of 2 doses sinovac.



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原帖由 CB1668_2 於 2021-10-27 10:36 PM 發表

點解唔係downgrade?

以前:2劑就係fully vaccinated FOREVER
而家:2劑係fully vaccinated FOR FOUR MONTHS!

容易打三劑,都係downgrade!
I thought Israel green pass is issued for vaccination within last 6 months

[ 本帖最後由 pbd456 於 2021-10-27 10:44 PM 編輯 ]



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原帖由 CB1668_2 於 2021-10-27 10:44 PM 發表

重有,科興係被視為mRNA疫苗的「備胎」,
即係打唔到mRNA先會打科興。

Sinovac will be not offered as a booster for people who have already completed two doses of mRNA vaccine and did not develop allergies or severe adverse reactio ...
it has nothing to do with what you posted as incorrect information previously which I tried to correct



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原帖由 CB1668_2 於 2021-10-27 10:47 PM 發表

以色列係點,我唔知,因為以色列都唔打科興。
我只係知道:

新加坡以前:2劑就係fully vaccinated FOREVER(at least,no 「expiry date」)
而家:2劑係fully vaccinated FOR FOUR MONTHS!
HK is neither singapore nor Israel.  Singapore is just as irreverent as Israel to HK.

So you selectively want to comment on a country, while ignoring others to make a point.

I personally dont care about 3rd shot for sinovac as i know of no one who had any side effect from sinovac.  I dont have needle phobia as I used to do double plasma donation (two needles, one in each arm for an hour -- far thicker than needle from vaccine), extract blood, and spin for plasma and then circle back to the body.

taking one dose of sinovac is like going for a lunch for me, just need to have time to show up.



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原帖由 CB1668_2 於 2021-10-27 10:54 PM 發表

但唔係我提起Singapore先,我亦無叫你回我關於新加坡的事。

你回完我關於星加坡的疫苗問題,先同我講唔關事?
somehow you want to discuss Singapore and refuse to talk about Israel green pass prgraom.

[ 本帖最後由 pbd456 於 2021-10-27 10:59 PM 編輯 ]



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原帖由 CB1668_2 於 2021-10-27 10:59 PM 發表

大佬!以色列有科興咩?
你係唔係想有一個結論:
新加坡:對復必泰兩針無限期(最少而家係)=》科興要4個月內打第三針
以色列:對復必泰的承認有限期=》唔承認科興

你要只講香港,都得!

香港專家都明示暗示接種科興的人「跳船」

https://www.discuss.com.hk/viewthread.php?tid=30244226&utm_source=copy&utm_campaign=ios&utm_medium=share
you are talking about fully vaccination status being downgrade... so i point on Israel has a system that downgrade..



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原帖由 CB1668_2 於 2021-10-27 11:17 PM 發表

一樣!

新加坡:無downgrade復必泰(最少而家無)=》會downgrade科興要4個月內打第三針,科興亦係做mRNA疫苗的「備胎」。

以色列:downgrade復必泰=》直情唔承認科興,備胎都無得佢做。
There are many considerations for vaccine, you can take biontech as you like it, it is allowed.Sinovac has shown to work well.  look at Regina Yip.after 6 months of sinovac, her boosters from 1 dose of biontech had taken her from <100 to >20000
sinovac is clearly proven a very good base.
Ho Ching had 3 doses of pfizer, and her antibodes was in 13k after booster



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原帖由 CB1668_2 於 2021-10-27 11:38 PM 發表

又唔講以色列了?

唔緊要!你講的Ho Ching

係唔係呢個?佢好似未take 第三針?係唔係講緊第二個?

https://theindependent.sg/ho-ching-2-shots-of-sinovac-may-be-equivalent-to-1-shot-of-pfizer/

“Typically, a titer of 160 or better is preferr ...
she took 3 dose pfizer and posted the antibodies level on her facebook.
700 5 months after 2nd dose.
and 15k 1 month after 3rd dose

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1879123525608806&amp;id=100005335308340

[ 本帖最後由 pbd456 於 2021-10-27 11:44 PM 編輯 ]



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原帖由 CB1668_2 於 2021-10-27 11:54 PM 發表

HO Ching 係指明係「IgG 抗體」水平,
只係其中一隻抗體。
孽瘤的抗體水平好似係講緊另一樣野。
孽瘤好似係講緊「總抗體水平」。
which number Regina Yip refers to? From all the data i have seen, no number except that one could reach 10k



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原帖由 CB1668_2 於 2021-10-28 12:14 AM 發表

我只係見到係”antibody count “無指明係邊一隻抗體。
但Ho Ching 就指明係IgG。
但如果IgG都有15K 其他類型都唔會少。
https://www.hkmj.org/system/files/hkmj219605.pdf

antibody level as reported in the paper using Abnott test for Ig
11k 2 dose of biontech 28 days after 2nd dose.



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原帖由 CB1668_2 於 2021-10-28 12:28 AM 發表

係呀!我記得呀!

兩劑復必泰有11K而兩劑科興只有1K,
如果打科興的人,以復必泰做加強劑,可以去到20K咁高,

咁!復必泰應該係打科興的人最好的加強劑!
好的程度係去到唔應該選擇科興做第三針。
If 2 doses of sinovac has zero impact after 6 months, the 1 dose biontech would generate antibody level comparing to single dose Pfizer which is far lower level than 20k

(the 11k is for an far younger average age group, comparing to Regina Yip)

this alone can prove that 2 doses of sinovac generates strong immune memory (that are not being shown by measuring the antibody level).

more interesting, the booster shot that ho ching got (she is a few years younger, and only get a boost
from 700 to 15k, not as dramatic as what Regina Yip is getting...


this is just antibody level alone, it does not even factor that mRNA vaccine does not induce b cell evolution as shown in the Nature paper, while the sinovac paper has shown that there is b cell evolution.


so the antibody that Regina Yip has generated is of higher quality than Ho Ching

[ 本帖最後由 pbd456 於 2021-10-28 12:35 AM 編輯 ]



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