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Chinese submarines could soon be quieter than US ones
http://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy-defence/article/2098986/why-chinese-submarines-could-soon-be-quieter-us-ones
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095使用無軸泵推,比海狼更安靜





能夠見證國家海軍力量的,一是核潛艇,二就是航空母艦。
隨著中國新航母的順利建造,中國海軍在水面艦艇領域已經成為公認的世界第二大水面艦隊。
然而中國海軍在水下力量方面依然有著不小的差距,雖然擁有70多艘潛艇,數量排世界前列。

095型核潛艇採用多項新技術,與093相比,具有跨越性提升,是我國未來航母水下護航的中堅力量。
據央視披露,中國海軍突破了一項關鍵技術,即馬偉明院士今年5月底提到榮獲國家科技進步一等獎的無軸泵推技術。
據馬院士介紹,這項獨具特色的潛艇無軸泵推技術,比美國採用噴水無軸推進技術還要先進,至少領先美國十年!未來將應用在095核潛艇上。
專家稱,相比傳統的機械軸推進方式,這種無軸推進為潛艇節約了大量空間。
最為重要的是,這項技術大大降低了發動機噪音,可以控制在95分貝左右,甚至比美國「海狼級」潛艇還要安靜。
隨著解放軍在渤海造船廠建設「巨無霸」核潛艇廠房,生產最新型核動力潛艇,中國最強核潛艇095未來將生產多艘。
中國核潛艇竟然無軸!一舉打亂世界排名!
五角大樓認為,隨著中國最強核潛艇095的誕生,中國海軍將具備比肩美俄的核潛艇力量,成為世界海軍大國。
這是振奮人心的消息,中國用實際行動證明著民族復興之路!大國崛起之路!(LYC)

[ 本帖最後由 末日戰狂 於 2017-12-21 12:46 PM 編輯 ]



Why Chinese submarines could soon be quieter than US ones


Why Chinese submarines could soon be quieter than US ones



The US Navy’s Pacific fleet used to mock Chinese submarines for being too noisy and too easy to detect, but that has largely been remedied in recent years and China is now on the cusp of taking the lead in a cutting-edge propulsion technology.





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Naval experts said the new technology would help China build more elusive submarines, but might also prompt the United States to ramp up anti-submarine warfare measures.
In a recent interview with China Central Television, Rear Admiral Ma Weiming, a leading Chinese naval engineer, showed a component of a new Integrated Electrical Propulsion System (IEPS) for naval warships in a laboratory. He said the system, which turns all the engine’s output into electricity, and a rim-driven pump-jet had been fitted to the People’s Liberation Army Navy’s newest nuclear submarines.



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“This is one of our work team’s first world-leading projects, which has been used on [China’s] next-generation nuclear submarines,” Ma said in May. “[Our technology] is now way ahead of the United States, which has also been developing similar technology.”
Ma’s exalted status in the PLA Navy was highlighted by a photograph of then navy commander Admiral Wu Shengli holding an umbrella for Ma during an inspection of the PLA Naval University of Engineering in Wuhan, where Ma works, on a rainy day in June last year. The photo, posted on the social media website of the PLA’s Navy Magazine, sparked public curiosity about why the commander would give such “preferential treatment” to a rear admiral.


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Ma told CCTV “the ultimate goal” of developing the new propulsion system “was aimed at solving the problem of deploying high-energy radio-frequency (HERF) weapons on board”, hinting that China was close to emulating the US in that regard.
HERF, a form of directed-energy weapon, can fire highly focused energy at a target, damaging it accurately and quickly. Directed-energy weapons require vast amount of electricity – something IEPS can deliver – and can counter the threats posed by fast missiles such as ballistic missiles, hypersonic cruise missiles and hypersonic glide vehicles. Besides China, the US, Russia and India are also developing them.
The CCTV report did not say which types of Chinese submarines would use the pump-jet propulsion system, but mainland military websites said they believed Ma had hinted at the new-generation, nuclear-powered Type 095 attack submarines and Type 096 ballistic missile submarines.
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Collin Koh Swee Lean, a submarine expert from the S. Rajaratnam School of International Studies at Singapore’s Nanyang Technological University, said Ma’s remark showcased the growing scientific and technological maturity of China’s submarine development.
“In the long term, if the pump-jet propulsion is declared fully operational and tested successfully ... future [Chinese] submarines would be equipped with pump-jet propulsion as a standard design feature,” he said, adding that the new technology would also benefit other naval shipbuilding projects, such as surface warships.
“The operational/strategic ramifications would be that China would muster stealthier submarines ... and this essentially broadens various options for Beijing where it comes to the peacetime use of its naval capabilities.”




A rim-driven pump-jet has a ring-shaped electrical motor inside the pump-jet shroud, which turns the vane rotor inside the pump-jet cavity to create thrust. The design reduces noise by removing the shaft and also creates fewer water bubbles, making it even quieter.
Modern American and British submarines already use pump-jet propulsion, but Koh said the technology had not been adopted more widely because its design was complex, and just a few countries could support the technology with “a good deal of funding and technical expertise”.
Beijing-based naval expert Li Jie said China had put a lot of resources and encouragement into developing cutting-edge technologies, including the pump-jet, air-independent propulsion (AIP) for non-nuclear submarines and other measures as part of its efforts to make Chinese submarines stealthier.
“Both the ultra-quiet engine and AIP will help Chinese subs to elude foes as high concealment is very important to all nuclear attack subs,” Li said. “Quieter subs means stronger stealth capability, which will help them to conduct surprise attacks when necessary.”
South China Sea air strips’ main role is ‘to defend Hainan nuclear submarine base’
China has built Asia’s largest submarine base at Yulin, on the south coast of Hainan, near Sanya. The base features underground submarine facilities with tunnel access, shielding Chinese submarines that enter the South China Sea from the prying eyes of US reconnaissance satellites. That’s prompted American warships and aircraft to conduct more close surveillance operations in the disputed waters, which are claimed wholly or in part by mainland China, Vietnam, the Philippines, Malaysia, Brunei and Taiwan.
Koh warned it was foreseeable that the US Navy would ramp up anti-submarine warfare measures to detect, classify and track Chinese submarines if they were harder to detect after being fitted with pump-jet propulsion and other stealth equipment.




“This more intensified cat-and-mouse game would also result in the risk of underwater accidents ... between submarines or with surface ships,” he said. “The quieter the submarine is, the greater the likelihood of such navigational safety hazards and, potentially, they could cause diplomatic incidents in the context of those maritime disputes and of course, the persistent Sino-US divergence in views over foreign military activities in coastal states’ exclusive economic zones. ”
The Chinese navy is likely to begin construction of the Type 096 submarines, which will be armed with 24 JL-3 intercontinental submarine-launched ballistic missiles, in the early 2020s, according to the Pentagon’s annual report to the US Congress this year.
US and India discuss anti-submarine warfare in latest move to keep China in check
Ma, 57, became a household name in 2011 when he announced during a speech to accept a national technology award that his team had successfully developed a Chinese electromagnetic aircraft launch system (EMALS).
Ma, a PLA deputy to the National People’s Congress, has since been asked by the media at the annual sessions of the national legislature when his EMALS will be fitted to China’s next-generation aircraft carriers.
“I am very unhappy because I have no power to decide when my EMALS will be used,” a frank Ma told reporters on the sidelines of this year’s NPC session in Beijing in March. “But I dare to tell you that the EMALS developed by my working team is more advanced and reliable than the US system to be used on their Ford-class aircraft carrier.”




The first of America’s Ford-class carriers, the first US vessel to use EMALS, completed sea trials in May.
Sources close to the navy told the South China Morning Post earlier this year that Ma’s EMALS might be fitted on China’s third-generation nuclear-powered aircraft carrier, the Type 003. However, the Central Military Commission, chaired by Xi, has not decided when the Type 003 will be built, and construction work has not yet started on the second-generation Type 002.
The PLA Navy has two aircraft carriers, the Liaoning, a refitted Soviet carrier commissioned in 2012, and the domestically built Type 001A, which was launched on April 26. They are both conventionally powered platforms featuring ski-jump take-off ramps.
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Xi has urged the PLA to pursue a “strong army dream”, but when asked by the Postwhether he hoped to see his EMALS fitted to a Chinese aircraft carrier one day, Ma said he “never has any dreams” and was focused on finding practical projects for his team that would release its potential.
“Whether the new technologies will be used never bothers me, because I’ve found that my task is to cultivate talent, meaning I have to create more opportunities for them and help them solve problems,” Ma said. “For example, compared with the US, China couldn’t devote as much funding to developing the electromagnetic aircraft launch system and advanced arresting gear (AAG) system, but I understood that our valuable resource was that I could mobilise my hundreds of talented students.”







This article appeared in the South China Morning Post print edition as: Navy’s quiet achievers



勁!太好了

不過好像已是七月的新聞?



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有軸一樣可以無傳動電驅,結構咪仲簡單?


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原帖由 69780501 於 2017-12-21 11:51 AM 發表
有軸一樣可以無傳動電驅,結構咪仲簡單?
有軸無傳動電驅是什麼來的?



人家海狼級 1997 年服役,已經是 20 年前的東西,現在講話先進人地 10 年,其實知唔知個醜字點寫?


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原帖由 布丁狗Bello 於 2017-12-21 03:21 PM 發表
人家海狼級 1997 年服役,已經是 20 年前的東西,現在講話先進人地 10 年,其實知唔知個醜字點寫?
葡萄到你呢..........



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原帖由 末日戰狂 於 2017-12-21 03:40 PM 發表



葡萄到你呢..........
一田 $ 200 一盒那些?好食丫



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原帖由 布丁狗Bello 於 2017-12-21 03:21 PM 發表
人家海狼級 1997 年服役,已經是 20 年前的東西,現在講話先進人地 10 年,其實知唔知個醜字點寫?
你唔好講做, 連係乜野黎, 點樣運作都唔知道, 仲敢出黎七, 又知唔知個醜字點寫?



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原帖由 wilsonkf 於 2017-12-21 04:10 PM 發表

你唔好講做, 連係乜野黎, 點樣運作都唔知道, 仲敢出黎七, 又知唔知個醜字點寫?
都話香討神人多,你又知我唔知道?你覺得 google 真係咁難用咩?小兄弟你串我未夠班,行埋一邊睇末日狂徙貼文啦。



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原帖由 布丁狗Bello 於 2017-12-21 04:14 PM 發表


都話香討神人多,你又知我唔知道?你覺得 google 真係咁難用咩?小兄弟你串我未夠班,行埋一邊睇末日狂徙貼文啦。
你夠班, 就唔會講乜乜領先二十年前既十年呢D 外行話.

研發需要時間, 但係突破根本唔會定時定候出現.



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原帖由 布丁狗Bello 於 2017-12-21 04:14 PM 發表


都話香討神人多,你又知我唔知道?你覺得 google 真係咁難用咩?小兄弟你串我未夠班,行埋一邊睇末日狂徙貼文啦。
你敢係到串其他網友唔夠班?
你確實係頂班,你昨天話FLY BY WIRE 係用WIRE去控制戰機飛行。咁又係,講出呢D嘢,真係無人夠你高班!


你昨天真係笑到我肚痛!



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原帖由 末日戰狂 於 2017-12-21 04:21 PM 發表



你敢係到串其他網友唔夠班?
你確實係頂班,你昨天話FLY BY WIRE 係用WIRE去控制戰機飛行。咁又係,講出呢D嘢,真係無人夠你高班!


你昨天真係 ...
fly by wire 即係放紙鳶咁去放飛機? 咁都幾有創意wor.



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原帖由 69780501 於 2017-12-21 11:51 AM 發表
有軸一樣可以無傳動電驅,結構咪仲簡單?
條軸咪係傳動...有軸無傳動咁條軸有乜野用.
宜家佢係環形馬達直接推葉片個環.

理論上少條軸會少D 噪音. 實際效果其實唔係只係同條軸有關. 葉片既外形都好關鍵. 仲有就係馬達本身會有嘈音, 要降噪呢度都要出力去搞.

[ 本帖最後由 wilsonkf 於 2017-12-21 04:44 PM 編輯 ]



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