Oh right.... so police should behaves like robbers (shoot whoever they want to...... bla bla bla) and vice versa...... we don't care about the law..... we don't care about principles....
Besides, could you tell me, with confidence, that all the students who were killed deserved to die? Were they all involved in killing soldiers? Every single one of them?
That, I disagree. I don't think I said anything wrong about the Chinese legal system (well at least that's what my lecturer told me); and I believe the Chinese Constitution is itself flawed and incompatible with democracy (of course, as I said before, it could be modernised). Besides, you don't need to be a legal expert to point out the apparent flaws within the Chinese Constitution.
你就唔好拿個小國和 13億人口的中國比啦 !
Right..... Hong Kong is small city though..... surely we can have democracy????
So large countries could not be democratised? That's a new theory......
Oh right.... so police should behaves like robbers (shoot whoever theywant to...... bla bla bla) and vice versa...... we don't care about thelaw..... we don't care about principles....
Besides, could you tell me, with confidence, that all the students whowere killed deserved to die? Were they all involved in killingsoldiers? Every single one of them?
That, I disagree. I don't think I said anything wrong about the Chineselegal system (well at least that's what my lecturer told me); and Ibelieve the Chinese Constitution is itself flawed and incompatible withdemocracy (of course, as I said before, it could be modernised).Besides, you don't need to be a legal expert to point out the apparentflaws within the Chinese Constitution.
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Right..... Hong Kong is small city though..... surely we can have democracy????
So large countries could not be democratised? That's a new theory........
That maybe..... but was I wrong about the Chinese Constitution?
國民教育的不成熟, 爛鬼、綜援人士、懶鬼的叫囂
That's not very nice to talk about HK citizens like this..... especially when most of those people are mainland immigrants having a hard time to start off their lives in HK....
You said you are from HK right? You must have heard of the concept of judicial review (when the court declare a law or a government's legislation to be unconstitutional and void it) then......... It is an old concept (administrative law)...... and the first major case happened back in 1803 (Marbury vs Madison).
2) Hold on, you were the one who quoted from the presenter first (you mentioned he said "rebellion" a few pages back).... now suddenly, that became unreliable......
Also, did you not hear the gunshots? Did you not see the tanks firing at the crowd? Did you not see the wounded and the dead in that doctors' scene?
3.) You know what my argument is (and it still stands)..... Were they all 顛覆政權、暴亂情況?? Was execution the right punishment (even for the student leaders)? No one was innoccent?
And I have quoted a few foreign examples on treason (as requested by you) to support my argument...... You are the one who haven't answered my question.....
4.) The mechanism of impeachment/ a vote of no confidence is that a simple majority should be passed to initiate the process (SU committee) just like in the USA or UK (even less complicated in terms of process).
You can disagree with the reason for that impeachment (look at US history, an impeachment was launched against President Andrew Johnson in 1868 because he dismissed a minister !!!).... but remember, the vote (referendum in this case) is the last gatekeeper....... and what give the process its legality......
I don't see why do you oppose the process that much...... You know, unlike China.... Hong Kong also has a similar impeachment mechanism (not with a referendum but the Legco has power over that mechanism).....
P.S. As I said, 陳一諤 has violated collective responsibility...... and you seemed to have agreed..... so I really don't see why are you opposing the whole thing.....
You said you are from HK right? You must have heard of the concept ofjudicial review (when the court declare a law or a government'slegislation to be unconstitutional and void it) then......... It is anold concept (administrative law)...... and the first major casehappened back in 1803 (Marbury vs Madison).
2) Hold on, you were the one who quoted from the presenter first (youmentioned he said "rebellion" a few pages back).... now suddenly, thatbecame unreliable......
Also, did you not hear the gunshots? Did you not see the tanks firingat the crowd? Did you not see the wounded and the dead in that doctors'scene?
3.) You know what my argument is (and it still stands)..... Were theyall 顛覆政權、暴亂情況?? Was execution the right punishment (even for thestudent leaders)? No one was innoccent?
And I have quoted a few foreign examples on treason (as requested byyou) to support my argument...... You are the one who haven't answeredmy question.....
4.) The mechanism of impeachment/ a vote of no confidence is that asimple majority should be passed to initiate the process (SU committee)just like in the USA or UK (even less complicated in terms of process).
You can disagree with the reason for that impeachment (look at UShistory, an impeachment was launched against President Andrew Johnsonin 1868 because he dismissed a minister !!!).... but remember, the vote(referendum in this case) is the last gatekeeper....... and what givethe process its legality......
I don't see why do you oppose the process that much...... You know,unlike China.... Hong Kong also has a similar impeachment mechanism(not with a referendum but the Legco has power over that mechanism).....
P.S. As I said, 陳一諤 has violated collective responsibility...... andyou seemed to have agreed..... so I really don't see why are youopposing the whole thing....
You said you are from HK right? You must have heard of the concept ofjudicial review (when the court declare a law or a government'slegislation to be unconstitutional and void it) then......... It is anold concept (administrative law)...... and the first major casehappened back in 1803 (Marbury vs Madison).
2) Hold on, you were the one who quoted from the presenter first (youmentioned he said "rebellion" a few pages back).... now suddenly, thatbecame unreliable......
Also, did you not hear the gunshots? Did you not see the tanks firingat the crowd? Did you not see the wounded and the dead in that doctors'scene?
3.) You know what my argument is (and it still stands)..... Were theyall 顛覆政權、暴亂情況?? Was execution the right punishment (even for thestudent leaders)? No one was innoccent?
And I have quoted a few foreign examples on treason (as requested byyou) to support my argument...... You are the one who haven't answeredmy question.....
4.) The mechanism of impeachment/ a vote of no confidence is that asimple majority should be passed to initiate the process (SU committee)just like in the USA or UK (even less complicated in terms of process).
You can disagree with the reason for that impeachment (look at UShistory, an impeachment was launched against President Andrew Johnsonin 1868 because he dismissed a minister !!!).... but remember, the vote(referendum in this case) is the last gatekeeper....... and what givethe process its legality......
I don't see why do you oppose the process that much...... You know,unlike China.... Hong Kong also has a similar impeachment mechanism(not with a referendum but the Legco has power over that mechanism).....
P.S. As I said, 陳一諤 has violated collective responsibility...... andyou seemed to have agreed..... so I really don't see why are youopposing the whole thing.....
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