Students voted right? They did not make up the result, right?
有對手人員「站」在票箱附近... thats a technical fault.... so a relection was launched.... students were free to vote..... protected by secret ballot..... the votes were counted....
What's wrong with that?
That's what we call democracy in Hong Kong.
(God knows what your/ China's definition of democracy is ......)
似乎你也迴避我的問題, 請先提出我在上帖理據以說服我吧, 在CBC錄影中可以清晰見到暴徒拉軍人出裝甲車然後毒打及其他暴亂行為, 然後你竟可說成是「they have actually provided evidence for the CCP's crime, b ...
I thought I already have......
Don't tell me you didn't hear the gunshots, you didn't see tanks firing at the crowd, you didn't see the crowd running away from the gunshots.... and for some reason, in the wounded/ dead scene.... it seems to look a lot more than 23/ 36 people........
The presenter said, I quote, "... their mercyless storming of Taianmmen square has caused many lives.... hospital sources in Beijing said at least 1400 people were killed, they said 10000 were hurt , and the worst of it may not be over yet...."
The reporter said, I quote, "....but it was a hopeless cause.... they were being shot.... hospitals all over the city were flooded with the wounded or dead..... the army put on a vicious show of brute force... people fought back with the only weapons available to them, stones, bricks and Molotov cocktail...."
The students were being massacred.... and all they were doing was defending themselves with stones, bricks and Molotov cocktail.....
The way I answered your question, was that I doubted your logic. You implied that the students had committed a crime.... treason and they deserved to be put down (even using tanks or guns).
My question is one of proportionality (a legal concept) and justice- did they (even those leaders) deserve to be executed? Or even executed without trial?
你連中國現存的憲法, 也想加以否定, 那你還想怎樣討論下去?
Chinese public law (note, I said public)...... a complete shambles.......... look at their legal system.... a mixture of the civil law system and the socialist legal system..... a system that is loyal to the party..... You really want to talk about 中國現存的憲法?????
要支持你的論點, 也應引用其他國家的「顛覆罪、間諜罪」是如何, 以此印證你的論點吧, 對否?
Treason (high not petty)..... the last time a person was executed for treason, in England, was back in 1946 (William Joyce)..... Why don't you tell me about the Chinese figures? (last week I would imagine...)
The law is pretty there just for historic reasons....... The IRA was not charged with treason, but with either murder or inciting murder...... so was Abu Hamza al- Masri.......
Also, note that in Great Britain, there is something called the SNP (Scottish Nationalist Party). It is a party (legal) that advocates the sepeation of Scotland from Britain. They were not just a legal party, but they were allowed to participate in elections.... they have MPs in the House of Commons...... and they actually formed government (the Scottish First Minister is the SNP leader) in Scotland.....
I wonder what would have happened to them if they were a group in the PRC..........
Is that good enough 引用其他國家的「顛覆罪、間諜罪」是如何, 以此印證你的論點吧 ?????
Students voted right? They did not make up the result, right?
有對手人員「站」在票箱附近... thats a technical fault.... so a relection waslaunched.... students were free to vote..... protected by secretballot..... the votes were counted....
What's wrong with that?
That's what we call democracy in Hong Kong.
(God knows what your/ China's definition of democracy is ......)
.
Don't tell me you didn't hear the gunshots, you didn't see tanks firingat the crowd, you didn't see the crowd running away from thegunshots.... and for some reason, in the wounded/ dead scene.... itseems to look a lot more than 23/ 36 people........
你連 89年中國公佈六四死三百幾人都唔知, 看來你的回覆大部份都是在不清不楚下作出討論
引用:
The presenter said, I quote, "... their mercyless storming of Taianmmensquare has caused many lives.... hospital sources in Beijing said atleast 1400 people were killed, they said 10000 were hurt , and theworst of it may not be over yet...."
The reporter said, I quote, "....but it was a hopeless cause.... theywere being shot.... hospitals all over the city were flooded with thewounded or dead..... the army put on a vicious show of brute force...people fought back with the only weapons available to them, stones,bricks and Molotov cocktail...."
The students were being massacred.... and all they were doing wasdefending themselves with stones, bricks and Molotov cocktail.....
真相從來不是在電視中找, 所謂的醫院消息來源是美國之音作的
引用:
The way I answered your question, was that I doubted your logic. Youimplied that the students had committed a crime.... treason and theydeserved to be put down (even using tanks or guns).
My question is one of proportionality (a legal concept) and justice-did they (even those leaders) deserve to be executed? Or even executedwithout trial?
Chinese public law (note, I said public)...... a completeshambles.......... look at their legal system.... a mixture of thecivil law system and the socialist legal system..... a system that isloyal to the party..... You really want to talk about 中國現存的憲法?????
Treason (high not petty)..... the last time a person was executed fortreason, in England, was back in 1946 (William Joyce)..... Why don'tyou tell me about the Chinese figures? (last week I would imagine...)
The law is pretty there just for historic reasons....... The IRA wasnot charged with treason, but with either murder or incitingmurder...... so was Abu Hamza al- Masri.......
Also, note that in Great Britain, there is something called the SNP(Scottish Nationalist Party). It is a party (legal) that advocates thesepeation of Scotland from Britain. They were not just a legal party,but they were allowed to participate in elections.... they have MPs inthe House of Commons...... and they actually formed government (theScottish First Minister is the SNP leader) in Scotland.....
I wonder what would have happened to them if they were a group in the PRC..........
Is that good enough 引用其他國家的「顛覆罪、間諜罪」是如何, 以此印證你的論點吧 ?????