P/1 The party was forced to adopt Open-door Policy, or it would be going to be collapsed due to poverty countrywide, the old system really could not help in improvement/ development of the country economy while others were leading
P/2 Leading by the party rather than its national "law", the law is just serving for the party even all of its judges
P/3 The crime rate is considerable high in the country, although the rate of incarceration was about 118/100,000, and the rate of murder was about 10cases/million population (HK was just about 2.4), there were many cases not reported in record. High degree(about 40 cases or = 1/3 of the rate) of "soft crime" including politic prisoners were not counted to the incarceration rate by proceed of pre-detention for re-education instead.
P/4 No ruling system is perfect in the world, but this China ruling system gets so many inferiors that must be improved as ruling by the law rather by the party. Since the cases of bribes and corruption in law courts and everywhere of the country are numerous, this would be very difficult to eliminate by the Central Disciplinary Authority without monitoring by the general public, who should get this right
P/5 The economy of Soviet Union was going to collapse in early 1990, I believe it was forced to change its old ruling system to free economy as well as western countries they were doing.
P/6 HK is my birthplace and a safe place, it gets super low crime rate, & being ranked no.1 of free economy in the the world, I am typical middle class own my biz, houses and cars, and ease of living without any pressure of spending. HK is a good place that I love, emigration no way!
P/1 The party was forced to adopt Open-door Policy, or it would be going to be collapsed due to poverty countrywide, the old system really could not help in improvement/ development of the country economy while others were leading "Open-door policy" did not change the leadership of CCP. What are trying to say? CCP is a good party to lead China?
P/2 Leading by the party rather than its national "law", the law is just serving for the party even all of its judges. China is successful under the current system. From the ill treatment of KMT which made China an negligible country in the world to the second super power. Can you find another country adopting rule of law doing the same in 1 single generation without using war as a mean?
P/3 The crime rate is considerable high in the country, although the rate of incarceration was about 118/100,000, and the rate of murder was about 10cases/million population (HK was just about 2.4), there were many cases not reported in record. High degree(about 40 cases or = 1/3 of the rate) of "soft crime" including politic prisoners were not counted to the incarceration rate by proceed of pre-detention for re-education instead. Source? and after counting these "soft crime" in all countries in the world, where is China standing? When you talk about "high", you must meant China is "higher" than something, right? give me ranking, give me data from other localities/countries.
P/4 No ruling system is perfect in the world, but this China ruling system gets so many inferiors that must be improved as ruling by the law rather by the party . Since the cases of bribes and corruption in law courts and everywhere of the country are numerous, this would be very difficult source? to eliminate has the corruption rate increased or decreased over the years? by the Central Disciplinary Authority without monitoring by the general public, who should get this right Without source. these are just in your head and all BS
P/5 The economy of Soviet Union was going to collapse in early 1990 It was because US and UAE came together and collaborated on the oil price - making Soviet Union lost its major source of income. You talk about free market eh? now why are you not condemning the governments who broke the law of free market, not abiding by your rule of law and win the cold war? PERFECT DOUBLE STANDARD. , I believe it was forced to change its old ruling system to free economy as well as western countries they were doing. You believe? US freaking sent economists to Russia, took over the policy making and made a mess. Read the history and learn what actually happened, not what you believed had happen.
P/6 HK is my birthplace and a safe place, it gets super low crime rate, & being ranked no.1 of free economy in the the world, I am typical middle class own my biz, houses and cars, and ease of living without any pressure of spending. HK is a good place that I love, emigration no way! Then your main concern is not CCP - rather, the newer generation who wants a cut of your hard-earn life. Think about it, who is asking for more government benefits? CCP? NO, CCP gave businesses to HK businessmen. And who is paying taxes to support the benefit? The newer generation? NO, it is you. Do the newer generation care about that vote? no, they want government support for a place to fuck.
P/1 Without formidable & astute leaders emerged in CCP in the late 70's, I think China economy today still remains its level likely similar to N. Korea. This ruling system today is much depended on if great leaders would exist in CCP or not by luck. A sound political system/framework shouldn't rely on leaders themselves, but these posts whenever if some mediocrities sat in, who were going to perform something misconducts(bribes/corruptions) or even some likely wrong policies that are no problem at all, while China people or general public if they have got freedom of speech, human rights and political rights to perform challenges to these leaders. Unfortunately the "open door policy" has not been applied on the political part so far, probably resulted in the tragedy happened in 1989 and also endless corrupted cases that can't be eliminated till today. Lack of manpower of the Central Disciplinary Authority can only crack down prominently some single corruption cases in low efficiency. General public could act as the watchdog for corruption if got 1. freedom of speech, 2. human rights, 3. political rights I/o CDA. Corruption is a mother of all crimes. Source: Please refer to the relationship of democracy rank and corruption rank by country in world here. http://www.worldaudit.org/democracy.htm
P/2, P/3 & P/4, I stress again, today China success only is likely at the economy part (really not at political part and governance) as it is becoming 2nd largest nation that has been benefited by the Deng’s policy and the peace time starting from1979 after 30years chaotic political movement prolonged. Empirically, it is not appropriate to compare China environment today with the era of KMT in 1911~1928. It was the wartime for power unifications,by the north expedition to defeat warlords of Qing dynasty and it also attempted to defeat the emerging power of CCP at that moment, however Nanking sovereignty by KMT was set up in 1928 and it was ready to perform country development for livelihood of people nationwide. Unfortunately the attacks of Japanese started in 1931 and then with full wing attacks to China from 1937 to 1945—the Sino-Japanese war, and subsequently the civil war happened during 1946~1949. The prolonged 38 years, I don’t think there any economic development activities could be performed by the sovereignty. Due to the close political system of CCP today inhabiting many ruling problems , its global ranking on corruption and justice,please see this index https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/datablog/2015/jun/02/global-ranking-corruption-world-justice-project-aims-promote-good-governance. China is being ranked at the last quartile of the Chart among 100 nations. I am proud of HK's performance
P/1 Without formidable & astute leaders emerged in CCP in the late 70's, I think China economy today still remains its level likely similar to N. Korea. This ruling system today is much depended on ...
3 fatal mistakes you have made:
1) bad source for analysis because you did not base your decision making on objective study - but rather, subjective ranking
2) you have yet to understand the relationship between government and economy
3) you are bias against CCP over KMT and therefore it clouds your judgement in looking at history
The ranking website you provided based its study on 1) CPI, stands for Corruption PERCEPTION Index, and 2) Press Freedom Score - a subjective ranking system made by a US government-funded research center based in NY. US has been making so many country to adopt this so called humane system in countries over countries after all these years - yet you still believe this system work? and using it as a source to support your claim? that is beyond saving. Your whole "higher democracy = less corruption" is unjustifiable simply because you are using a bias study put together by governments promoting democracy. And they did not promote that for the well being in other countries - they promote that for the exact opposite reason. Do your research.
You mentioned China has economical success. This is our common ground - what you need to learn is that there is one and only one grading system for a successful government - economy. All the ultimate goal for government, politics, military, law and etc. are to serve solely but 1 goal - well-being of the citizens, also known as ECONOMY. If a government cannot manage to maintain a good economy, it is a bad government. If the politicians fail to enact sound policies for a better economy, they are bad politicians. If the military forces fail to provide protection against invaders taking away the resources in a country, this force is useless. If the laws fail to maintain stability in the economy, the laws are fraud. You tried to separate economy, the goal, from these means to the goal. This indicates you do not understand how a society works.
Lastly, China had been in a chaos for almost a hundred years - there were civil wars, invaders, uneven treatment that the laws could not solve. CCP stopped all of them. Qing Dynasty couldn't do that, KMT couldn't do that, all the Warlords during that time couldn't do that. CCP is the only government that brought economical stability back to China.
You failed to answer my questions in my previous reply and went about advertising subjective studies promoting the so-called "democracy", like:
1) counting these "soft crime" in all countries in the world [*I did say COUNT, don't give me subjective ranking made by the western world and THINK you address the question. And we all know western corruption is no better than the east. You made a point now PROVE it, man up and COUNT]
2) Can you find another country adopting rule of law doing the same in 1 single generation without using war as a mean? [i wasn't referring to China's economy here, I said "world second super power" in the previous sentence. This includes technology, culture, literacy, value, international awareness, foreign relations, etc.]
3) has the corruption rate increased or decreased over the years?
4) You talk about free market eh? now why are you not condemning the governments who broke the law of free market, not abiding by your rule of law and win the cold war?
You have yet to learn to properly debate - attack the opponent's argument instead of avoiding it all together.
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