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日本用這招以本傷人,肯定會削減亞投行的影響力,但日本這招七傷拳已經要日本出到九牛二虎之力,對中國而言,只不過是阻慢步伐,魚利的就是美國,可以阻礙中國對其他小國發揮影響力,又可以進一步削減那隻可能咬主人的狗作反的能力






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原帖由 kingking99 於 2015-5-23 10:15 AM 發表 日本用這招以本傷人,肯定會削減亞投行的影響力,但日本這招七傷拳已經要日本出到九牛二虎之力,對中國而言,只不過是阻慢步伐,魚利的就是美國,可以阻礙中國對其他小國發揮影響力,又可以進一步削減那隻可能咬主人 ...
呢1000億善霸應該都有份出 ..






亞投行唔止有建設國既參與,仲有以投資者參與既國家。亞投行係有賺既生意長做長有,日本呢筆錢有去冇回,除左美日邊個會放錢落去?


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原帖由 ScaniaFung 於 2015-5-22 21:45 發表
中國入聯合國係大會既事,唔係安理會既事,冇否決權可言,因為係由中華人民共和國內代中華民國既「中國代表」身份,唔係一個新既國家想要入常,「中國」本身從來都係五常
網上有好多白痴言論
不過信個d人仲白痴



根本2個機構性貨都唔同. 亞投行由五十幾國(暫時)組成, 好似一個俱樂部咁,大家有錢出錢,有力出力搞好一帶一路區內的基建. 有錢齊齊搵.日本個個係政府同日本商界組成的融資機構. 在區內的協調力差十萬八千里.






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原帖由 ScaniaFung 於 2015-5-22 09:46 PM 發表


好簡單,中國借錢,甚至送錢比小國搞基建,搞農業,自然需要一大堆既器械同人員,工具同人都要買同請,同邊個買,同邊個請?最終D錢袋左落邊個袋?自已想
還有中國擁有龐大美元外匯....要令其保值.......最好不過就係投資.....以往只有美債能夠大量購買而有高息回報.........可以利用亞投行..處理一些外匯儲備



東施效顰。


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中共搞亞投行,邀請世界參與在於加大影響力。
另一個目的,係搞大西部內陸地區,將過剩產能投出國外。 戰略目的,又可以連接西部陸路接連中亞,東西歐。 把歐陸市場都接駁至天朝。

我也正苦惱於那千億亞投行,對落後世界的中亞國家如同九牛一毛。 現在日本說要把一千億跟亞投行去競爭。
豈不是跟大陸搶飯碗的臭計不成,反而更加幫助大陸早日完成一路一帶的建設???
亞歐與中國土地相連,不是跟日本中相連。
日本這一千億,大陸應該大力歡迎日本動用國本幫助大陸完成國家戰略。






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原帖由 highbury64 於 2015-5-20 06:47 PM 發表


日本製鋼水平領先中國半個世紀
笑!我肯定只有av是領先我國!






哈哈睇到我都笑死了,亞投由50多國組成,區區日本果一千億????想同中國鬥哈哈哈


請參閱Jake Van der Kamp於2015年5月24日在南華早報的評論。留意最後兩段,他認為日本提供的援助對受援國來說是有毒的酒杯。

http://www.scmp.com

Japan offers infrastructure aid while its own house is in complete shambles

Vying to keep pace with China's rising influence and economic clout, Japan plans to provide US$110 billion to help develop roads, ports and other infrastructure in Asia in the next five years, Prime Minister Shinzo Abe said yesterday.
SCMP, May 22

They certainly have the know-how. Over the last 25 years, the Japanese have made themselves world leaders in an experiment with infrastructure investment. Unfortunately, they only proved that they should not have done it.
We start with the evidence of the first chart. The big idea in 1990, when the stock market collapsed and the economy faltered, was that the Japanese government would spend its way back into growth. This is what a fellow named John Maynard Keynes said you had to do, you see.

They thus adopted a huge infrastructure programme, digging long tunnels to nowhere and slathering vast mounds of concrete all over the landscape, so that public investment spending soon amounted to almost 9 per cent of gross domestic product. That is the blue line in the first chart.
For comparison with another has-been, look at the red line representing Britain, where public investment has run at 2 to 3 per cent of GDP over the last 25 years. Yes, some roads in Britain are pretty bad, but Japan still clearly overdid it.

And now for the really big numbers. They financed almost all of it with bond issues and, as a result, Japanese government debt has now risen to more than a quadrillion yen. I shall write this out - 1,000,000,000,000,000 yen.
As the blue line in the second chart shows, this is the equivalent of about 220 per cent of GDP. In 1990, the figure was less than 50 per cent. The red line gives you the contrasting figure for federal debt to GDP in the United States. Yes, they have started to go mad in the US, too, but they are nowhere near Japanese standards of it yet.

And what has all this done for Japan?

Here is the key statistic. Last year, the Japanese economy was smaller than it was 20 years earlier.

I present some of the words you are looking for to describe the Japanese record in infrastructure investment - wipeout, utter failure, scandal, fiasco, debacle, complete shambles.
And the sad thing about Mr Abe's new US$110 billion Asian infrastructure scheme is that he is not even doing it to boost Asian economic growth, let alone provide people with roads and bridges they may need.
No, the reason Mr Abe is doing it is that President Xi Jinping has stolen a march on him by setting up an Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank to rival Japan's tired old Asian Development Bank and Mr Abe apparently still thinks Japan should retain the title of Patron of Asia.

I have a word of advice for the intended recipients of this largesse. It's a poisoned chalice, folks. They are doing it for all the wrong reasons and they will mess it up for sure. That's what they do.

And when they have done it, they will still ask for their money back. You can only lose.

[ 本帖最後由 Murazaki 於 2015-5-25 01:04 PM 編輯 ]



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原帖由 omgking 於 2015-5-25 12:42 PM 發表 哈哈睇到我都笑死了,亞投由50多國組成,區區日本果一千億????想同中國鬥哈哈哈
開始時公佈一千億,是要對抗亞投行的風頭,實際有多少到位,會否爛尾,天知曉






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原帖由 風之小子 於 2015-5-23 12:12 AM 發表
其實亞投行主要可以解決中國產能過剩以及幫中國企業走出去,
我可以借錢比你起基建, 但部分公司或技術必須採用中國的,
變相哥D錢係比返中國公司,
仲有起好之後係邊D公司的管理, 維修, 保養呢?
最重要係呢D發展 ...
不宣對亞投行抱太高期望......




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